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Memo Al Jazeera 'Palestine Papers' - The ‘Palestine Papers’ - The Right Context From Dr. Saeb Erekat
07 February 2011 By Dr. Saeb Erakat
PLO Negotiations Affair Department Release
MEMORANDUM:
TO: DR. SAEB
EREKAT
FROM:
NEGOTIATIONS SUPPORT UNIT
SUBJECT: THE
‘PALESTINE PAPERS’ – THE RIGHT CONTEXT
DATE:
JANUARY 31, 2011
Executive Summary
This
report examines the false allegations presented in
media coverage of the “Palestine Papers” published by
Aljazeera and the Guardian. Focusing on the central
allegations listed below, this report evaluates
excerpts taken from the “Palestine Papers” in regard
to these issues and puts them into their proper
context. It is clear that the media, spearheaded by
Aljazeera, has deliberately misrepresented and taken
statements out of context from informal meeting
minutes, internal documents and internal NSU emails in
order to attack the current Palestinian leadership and
its national program.
Content
Palestinian “acceptance” of the “Jewish State” – Page
2
A
referendum not including all Palestinian – Page 4
Conceding Jerusalem – Page 5
Haram Al-Sharif – Page 9
Refugees: Conceding the right of return – Page 11
Major concessions on territory – Page 17
Goldstone Report – Page 19
Security – Annex.
Palestinian “acceptance” of the “Jewish
state”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/palestinian-negotiators-jewish-state-papers
Palestinian negotiators accept Jewish
state, papers reveal
By
Seumas Milne and Ian Black
Date
Last Modified: 24 Jan 2011 20:00 GMT
Excerpt:
“Palestinian negotiators privately accepted Israel's
demand that it define itself as a Jewish state”.
Basis for News Reports:
The
Guardian report appears to be based on the following
NSU documents:
[Excerpt from “Eight Negotiation Team Meeting” Prep
for Annapolis ]
13 November 2007:
Mount Zion Hotel, West Jerusalem
TL:
Two states is the
ultimate goal of the process. But also part of the TOR.
Each state is the
answer to the natural aspirations of its people.
SE:
[Raises RM
language regarding unequivocal duty to accept each
state as is. Reads from the RM.]
TL:
To say the idea
that two nation states contradicts the RM…
SE:
[But we’ve never
denied Israel’s right to define itself.]
If you want to
call your state the Jewish State of Israel you can
call it what you want. [Notes examples of Iran and
Saudi Arabia.]
TL:
I said basically
that our position is a reference to the fact that each
state is an answer to the national aspirations of
their people.
AH:
There was an
article in Haaretz saying that Palestinians would be
stupid if they accept this [i.e. the Jewish state].
TL:
Someone wrote the
Palestinians?
AA:
I want to say two
state solution living side by side in peace security
stability and prosperity, Palestinian democratic state
independent with sovereignty, viable with East
Jerusalem as its capital.
TB:
That’s all?
[Sarcastically.]
AA:
Yes that’s our
position.
Two state
solution living side by side in peace security
stability and prosperity, Palestiniandemocratic state
independent with sovereignty, viable with East
Jerusalem as its capital.
This is what we
want to have. This small sentence.
RETORT:
Dr.
Erekat starts the discussion by referring to the Road
Map language and the “unequivocal duty to accept each
state as is.” Dr. Erekat goes on to read from the Road
Map
What
does the Road Map say about this?
o
Palestinian leadership issues unequivocal statement
reiterating
Israel's right to exist in peace and security
and calling for an
immediate and unconditional ceasefire to end armed
activity and all acts of violence against Israelis
anywhere. All official Palestinian institutions end
incitement against Israel.
o
Israeli leadership issues unequivocal statement
affirming its commitment to the twostate
vision of an
independent, viable, sovereign Palestinian state
living in peace and security alongside Israel,
as expressed by
President Bush, and calling for an immediate end to
violence against Palestinians everywhere. All official
Israeli institutions end incitement against
Palestinians.
Abu
Alaa’ repeats this language later on in the minutes.
The Palestinian team presents a clear position on this
issue.
Dr.
Erekat points out that Palestine cannot force Israel
to name itself one way or the other. However,just
because Israel chooses to defines itself as a Jewish
state, it does not mean that Palestine has to
recognize it as such. PLO has already recognized
Israel as a state, as per the 1993 Exchange of Letters
between Arafat and Rabin, which comply with the Road
Map language that Dr. Erekat referred to in the
document.
A
referendum not including all Palestinians
http://english.aljazeera.net/palestinepapers/2011/01/2011124123324887267.html
“PA selling short the refugees”
By
Laila Al-Arian
Last
Modified: 25 Jan 2011 10:49 GMT
The
quote as it was brought in Aljazeera:
Aljazeera referred to a meeting
on March 23, 2007, between Erekat and then-Belgian
foreign minister Karel De
Gucht, during which Erekat said, "I never said the
Diaspora will vote. It's not going to happen. The
referendum will be for Palestinians in Gaza, the West
Bank and East Jerusalem. Can't do it in Lebanon. Can't
do it in Jordan."
Aljazeera’s conclusion:
While
Erekat conceded the rights of Palestinian refugees to
determine their own fate, during such meetings Israeli
negotiators made clear their vision for the refugees.
RETORT:
It
is irresponsible journalism to attribute a quote to
Dr. Erekat based on the document referred to. This
document is a summary of a meeting. It was taken in
shorthand and intended for personal use only.
The
note taker confirms that Dr. Erekat and the Belgian
Principal in the meeting were speaking about the
logistical challenges of holding a referendum with
Palestinians scattered throughout the world. Dr.
Erekat was speaking about the challenges of securing
the cooperation of the governments hosting Palestinian
refugees to conduct a referendum in those states.
Similarly, the Belgian Principal estimated that it
would be more practicable to seek Palestinian approval
for any agreement through the Palestinian Parliament.
Since 2007, Dr. Erekat’s staff has being working on
figuring out how to make a referendum of all
Palestinians logistically practicable.
More
importantly, President Abbas has always said publicly,
and even according to documents on Al Jazeera’s
website (March 24, 2009), that any agreement will be
put to a referendum of ALL Palestinians.
Conceding Jerusalem
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/palestine-papers-documents/2648?INTCMP=SRCH
SE on
Jerusalem
May 4,
2008
The
Guardian titled one of reports that Dr. Saeb Erekat
said: “We are giving you the biggest Yerushalayim in
history.”
RETORT:
This
meeting on borders took place on May 4th 2008. During
the meeting the Palestinian team provided a
presentation on a possible scenario for land swaps on
the basis of 1:1.
The
notes taken during the presentation were only partial
and unofficial. They do not document all of what has
been said verbatim, in particular since the note taker
was also one of the presenters. Moreover, the note
taker may have misinterpreted what has been said or
confused between the speakers.
At
the backdrop of these discussions was Israel’s refusal
to discuss Jerusalem as part of the negotiations on
borders or present a vision for Jerusalem. Rather
Israel pushed for partial discussion over borders that
exclude Jerusalem from negotiations, arguing that all
of municipal Jerusalem according to the Israeli
definition (70 square KM) should remain under Israeli
control.
This
is in addition to other Israeli settlements around the
city, such as Male Adumim and Givat Ziev- what is
commonly referred by Israel as “Greater Jerusalem”.
The Palestinian team insisted that borders
negotiations must include Jerusalem, which will be the
capital of a sovereign Palestinian state. Otherwise,
the two state solution will not be viable.
The
Palestinians side also insisted that the Israeli
expansion of the municipal borders of East Jerusalem
from 6 square km to 70 square km and the annexation of
that area is illegal and was not recognized.
In
light of this backdrop and the position of the
parties, the said quote may have been in response to
an Israeli comment that the Palestinian presentation
for land swaps in Jerusalem is not sufficient.
During the meeting the Palestinian team presented the
overall vision which provides context for the
presentation on a possible land swap scenario.
A
more accurate reading of the so called minutes
published by Aljazeera supports these conclusions as
illustrated from the excerpts below.
“Abu Ala’:
-
The safe passage
-
Sea borders
-
1967 borders are the only basis for the two-state
solution. Palestinians have
made a historic concession
by accepting 242 UN Resolution for the two-state
solution. By accepting the resolution, Palestinians
have recognized the state of Israel, which was in fact
a viable, contiguous and sovereign state along 1967
borders with 78% of the area of historic Palestine.
-
Both of us agree that the settlement enterprise has a
very negative effect and that
the evacuation of
settlements is for the good of both sides. Settlements
confiscate large areas of Palestinian land, deprive
Palestinians of many development spheres, impede
communication and destroy Palestinian economy.
Settlements were meant to artificially change the
demographic structure and change realities on the
ground, as well as to ensure that no viable
Palestinian state would evolve. Now that you have
accepted the idea of a Palestinian state, such a state
must be geographically contiguous, viable and
sovereign. But in order to make this a reality, the
Israeli settlements must be evacuated.
The
issue is not whether evacuation should take place, but
which settlements should be removed in order to be
able to implement the two-state solution. Unlike the
Palestinian state, the removal of settlements will not
affect the viability of the state of Israel or its
contiguity or security. Besides, if any of the
settlers wish to live under Palestinian sovereignty,
they have to be subject to the Palestinian law.
-
For us, all settlements are illegal and their
construction was a violation of the
international law, and thus
they should be evacuated. We are not the only ones who
think this; this is also acknowledged by the rest of
the international community. On the other hand, we
understand that in order to reach a two-state solution
in spite of all the Israeli measures that were taken
in order to change realities on the ground, there is
common interest in keeping some settlements. This is
the concession that we make for the purpose of meeting
your legitimate interests and making the two-state
solution feasible. Thus any amendments on 1967 borders
– the main basis for a two-state solution – should
also meet our interests and keep geographical
contiguity, viability and sovereignty of the state
within the context of swap by the ratio of 1:1, with
the same value and size.
Livni: Do
you have any suggestions about the areas for swap?
Abu Ala’:
- You will see that on the
maps.
-
In order to meet Palestinian interests, swap of land
with the same value and size
and by the ration of 1:1
should take into account the following factors: (1)
Any settlement included in the swap should not impede
geographical contiguity especially with and within
Jerusalem. This partially means that any settlement
swapped to Israel should be near 1967 line. Therefore,
any settlement swapped to Israel should be dealt with
individually not as settlement blocs or individual
houses. (2) All areas should be equal; in other words,
all areas included in the swap should be in the same
area (that is, land in Jerusalem for land in
Jerusalem). (3) Areas swapped ‘from’ should not impede
Palestinian development, and areas swapped ‘to’ should
support Palestinian development, in accordance with
the plans, and allow for urban expansion of
Palestinian cities and towns. (4) The value of
agricultural land should be preserved. (5) The
Palestinian state must have adequate land,
capabilities and resources to absorb Palestinian
refugees who do not prefer to return to Israel, and
those who hope to return to Palestine. (6) Areas of
religious, cultural and historical significance for
the Palestinians should not be included in the swap.
(7) In any swap, there should be access to quality
water and other water interests. (8) Civilians will
not be included in any swap; in other words, land
inhabited by Palestinians will not be subject for
swap. (9) Empty land shall not be swapped to Israel.
(10) Security is not a condition for land swap because
there will always be borders between Palestine and
Israel. (For example, no agreement will provide
strategic depth because of Qalqilya and Tulkarem,
etc.). Peace is the only means to provide Palestinians
and Israelis alike with peace.
-
On the basis of these factors, some settlements cannot
be included in swap under
any condition, including
the settlements of Maa’le Adumim, Giv’at Ze’ev, Har
Homa (Abu Ghneim), and Ariel. These negotiations are
not a market, and the issue is not that of numbers for
compromise and or disagreements. We want to meet the
interests of both sides.
-
We suggested that 63% of all settlers be included in
less than 2%. This
suggestion meets the
interests of all parties. “
Also:
“Samih: -
We tried in the proposition that we will present to
you to be more fair than the proposition that was
presented to us.
-
Negotiations about land:
o
1967 line is the only basis.
o
Swap by the ratio of 1:1 with the same size and value.
o
Comprehensive, including
Jerusalem, the Jordan
Valley, etc.
Livni:
What do you mean by the same value?
Abu Ala’:
If annexation was in
Jerusalem area then swap will take place in Jerusalem
area.
Tal: How
can we measure this? Land has the same value.
Livni: Or
is it only a slogan?
Samih: It
is not a slogan. I do not wish to have land in the
Dunhiyyeh desert area for
land in Jerusalem, for example.
Saeb: The
value of the land determines how the other side will
benefit from it.”
Another example that illustrates the Israeli
discontent from the Palestinian proposal:
“Livni:
Doesn’t Har Homa exist?
Khaled:
The interest is to reconnect Jerusalem and Bethlehem.
Such reconnection has a social, religious, economic
and tourist significance. It is even more important
than the connection between Jerusalem and Ramallah.
The area is also important for the
expansion of Beit Safafa
which has become an isolated town between Gilo and Har
Homa settlements.
Abu Ala’:
To address natural growth.
Livni:
Now we are talking about natural growth?!”
Another example:
“Livni:
It is clear that Ma’ale Adumim, Giva’t Ze’ev, Har Homa
and Ariel do not exist.
Samih:
Real peace cannot be reached with an 18-km long
enclave inside Palestine. We do not want to create
problems in the future. We do not wish to hurt peace.”
Also:
“Dekel:
What is missing here is Ma’ale Adumim, Har Homa,
separation between the Jewish clusters in Jerusalem,
Gush Itzyon, Giv’at Ze’ev, and Ariel.”
Haram al‐Sharif
http://english.aljazeera.net/palestinepapers/2011/01/2011122114545946119.html#
Erekat’s solution for the Haram
by
Clayton Swisher
Last
Modified: 23 Jan 2011 14:39 GMT
Swisher’s article includes the following quotations:
“Saeb
Erekat, the chief negotiator of the Palestinian
Authority (PA), had suggested unprecedented
compromises on the division of Jerusalem and its holy
sites, the Palestine Papers obtained by Al Jazeera
show.
Minutes of negotiations at the US State Department in
Washington DC indicate that Erekat was willing to
concede control over the Haram al‐Sharif,
or Temple Mount, to the oversight of an international
committee.”
Quotes from the minutes:
In a
meeting on October 21, 2009 with George Mitchell, the
US Middle East envoy, David Hale, Mitchell’s deputy,
and Jonathan Schwartz, the then‐US
State Department legal adviser, Erekat told the
Americans that they would need a “creative” solution
for the division of the Old City.
Erekat:
“It’s solved. You have the Clinton Parameters formula.
For the Old City sovereignty for Palestine, except the
Jewish quarter and part of the Armenian quarter … the
Haram can be left to be discussed
‐
there are creative ways, having a body or a committee,
having undertakings for example not to dig
[excavations under the Al Aqsa mosque]. The only thing
I cannot do is convert to Zionism.”
Schwartz: To confirm to Sen. Mitchell, [this is] your
private idea …
Erekat:
This conversation is in my private capacity.
Schwartz: We’ve heard the idea from others. So you’re
not the first to raise it.
Erekat:
Others are not the chief negotiator of the PLO.
RETORT:
The
notes are not official and do not reflect the
Palestinian position in the negotiations with Israel.
The
Palestinian Position for the Old City of Jerusalem is
clear and has been reflected in our position paper
given to Senator George Mitchell: “The PLO considers
the Old City to be a single unit enjoying a unique
character that will be preserved together with the
promotion and development of the area and its
inhabitants in accordance to the UNESCO World Cultural
Heritage List regulations, in which the Old City is a
registered site.”
Regarding the border regime and the assumption that
Palestine would be willing to accept Israeli
sovereignty over the Old City, the position is also
clear: “The border regime between Palestine and Israel
in Jerusalem will correspond to the general border
regime arrangements between the two states, while
taking into consideration the special character of
Jerusalem and the Old City, and with a view to
facilitating free and uninhibited movement of persons,
vehicles, services and goods between the two parts of
the city.”
The
quote does not suggest any cession of sovereignty to
Israel over the Haram Al Sharif. It is once again an
irresponsible conclusion taken from unofficial notes.
On the contrary, what is clear that the Palestinian
negotiator is insisting on a sovereignty over the Old
City of Jerusalem (maybe with the exclusion of the
Jewish quarter – in the framework of agreed land
swaps). The Haram Al Sharif, specifically, and as part
of the Muslim quarter will be under Palestinian
sovereignty, with the possibility of establishing
monitoring committee.
Refugees - Conceding the right of
return
News
reports from The Guardian and Al Jazeera
Palestinians agreed only 10,000 refugees could return
to Israel
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/24/palestinians-10000-refugees-return-israel
Date:
February 2009 – March 2009.
[Excerpt]
The
documents reveal that Olmert first offered a figure of
5,000 refugees over five years on "humanitarian"
grounds as part of the "package deal" he presented to
Abbas in August 2008. PLO lawyers responded that that
was "not serious and cannot be accepted".
Erekat said later that “Olmert had accepted "1,000
refugees annually for the next 10 years” – a total of
10,000. Erekat told the US Middle East envoy, George
Mitchell, in February 2009: "On refugees, the deal is
there." He confirmed the figure later.
Last year, however, Erekat distributed a document to
EU diplomats saying the PA had expressed willingness
to accept an Israeli proposal to allow in 15,000
refugees.
Abbas, himself a 1948 refugee, privately argued
against the large-scale return of refugees in a
meeting in March 2009: "On numbers of refugees, it is
illogical to ask Israel to take 5 million, or indeed 1
million," he told officials. "That would mean the end
of Israel.”
Al
Jazeera Arabic:
Date:
None Given
[Excerpt]
The
PLO requested from Israel a deal including the return
of 10,000 refugees per year over 10 years.
RETORT:
In
The Guardian article and during Al Jazeera’s various
reports on ‘The Palestine Papers’ and on its program
‘Bila Hudud’, reporters stated that Dr. Saeb Erekat
agreed with Israeli negotiators that either five
thousand Palestinian refugees (one thousand per year
for five years) or ten thousand refugees (one thousand
per year for 10 years), would be allowed to return to
Israel. Dr. Erekat vehemently denies that such was
ever agreed to during his negotiations with Israeli
counterparts.
The
basis for these news reports appears to come from the
reading of a number of NSU documents together which Al
Jazeera has posted on i August 31, 2008 (“Olmert
Offer”);
o
minutes of a briefing by Dr. Saeb Erekat to the NSU on
June 16, 2009 (“NSU Briefing”); and
o
minutes of a meeting between George Mitchell and Dr.
Saeb Erekat dated February 27, 2009 (“Mitchell
Meeting”)
According to the Olmert Offer (and other documents
prepared by the NSU around August/September 2008 which
have been posted on Al Jazeera’s Transparency Unit
website), the NSU indicates that Olmert offered to
permit one thousand refugees to return to Israel over
a period of five years:
[Excerpt from the document relating to refugees]
Israel would
acknowledge the suffering of – but not responsibility
for – Palestinian refugees (language is in the
preamble). In parallel, there must also be a mention
of Israeli (or Jewish) suffering.
Israel would take
in 1,000 refugees per year for a period of 5 years on
“humanitarian” grounds. In addition, programs of
“family reunification” would continue.
Israel would
contribute to the compensation of the refugees through
the mechanism and based on suffering.
Not clear what
the heads of damage for compensation would be, just
that there would be no acknowledgement of
responsibility for the refugees, and that
compensation, and not restitution or return (apart
from the 5,000), would be the only remedy…
In a
June 16, 2009 briefing to NSU advisors, Dr. Erekat
reported that Olmert offered to permit ten thousand
refugees:
[Excerpt from the document relating to refugees]…
SE:
Olmert accepted 1000 refugees annually for the next 10
years; ‘67 borders and 100% of the WB and Gaza;
East Jerusalem as our capital – what is Arab is Arab,
what is Jewish is Jewish - the Jordan Valley; the Dead
Sea…
Unofficial minutes taken on February 27, 2009 of Dr.
Erekat’s meeting with George Mitchell indicate that
Dr. Erekat felt a deal could be made with Israel on
refugees: [Excerpt from the NSU meeting minutes
quoting Dr. Erekat related to refugees] …
We
recognize that Palestine will not have an army, navy
and air force, but will have no limitation on dignity,
and will require a third party to help us. On
refugees, there were discussions on numbers that will
return to Israel over a number of years. The deal is
there… [emphasis
added]
Later
on in the minutes, Dr. Erekat is quoted as saying
…We
have looked at all details of the day after. Now it’s
about decisions. I cannot negotiate on percentages and
numbers of refugees any longer. The choice is yours
now. It’s time for a decision. The two states are
inevitable.
Apparently, Al Jazeera and The Guardian are reading
the two quotations above from the NSU Briefing along
with the documents noting Olmert’s offer to conclude
that there was an agreement between Dr. Erekat and the
Israeli side.
A
more fair reading of the statements attributed to Dr.
Erekat is that he believed that the parties could
reach an agreement on return of a number of refugees.
Though additional documents prepared by the NSU around
the same time as Olmert’s offer which have been posted
on the Al Jazeera’s Transparency Unit website indicate
that the NSU anticipated that there would be an
agreement on a set “quota” for refugee return to
Israel, there is no indication that Dr. Erekat agreed
to any specific number from the documents which Al
Jazeera referenced in its news report.
The
number of 1000 of year for a certain numbers was an
offer that Olmert made. It was not made by Dr. Erekat
and certainly never accepted by him.
Relevant Excerpt: 8 April 2008
Livni: Let
us be fair. You referred to 1967 line. We have not
talked about Jerusalem yet.
There
are some Palestinian villages that are located on both
sides of the 1967 line about which we need to have an
answer, such as Beit Safafa, Barta’a, Baqa al-Sharqiyeh
and Baqa al-Gharbiyyeh. There are also some
settlements that were built behind 1967 line but
expanded inside 1967 line illegally, such as Uranit
settlement south of Hebron.
Abu Ala’:
First, we cannot accept this proposition and I am
sorry to hear it. This solution is not the two-state
solution. It is the five-state solution: a state in
Gaza, a state in Jerusalem, a state for settlers, a
Palestinian state and an Israeli state. I do not think
this will be the basis for any discussion.
Shlomo
Ben Ami wanted to propose this to me but I told him
no. Look how much Ma’ale
Adumim
has expanded since you suggested the swap. Thus if you
want to be realistic and are concerned about the
continuation of this channel, you have to come up with
a realistic proposition.
I
cannot look at you needs but I can look at swap by a
realistic percentage.
If you
want to terminate the PA with this proposition, we
will leave it for our future generations to demand our
rights.
Terza:
Ma’ale Adumim was 64 kilometers in Taba.
Livni: At
any rate, Taba is not a term of reference.
Saeb: I mentioned earlier that the
establishment of the Palestinian state is the answer
to the issue of 5 million Palestinian refugees, but
this does not mean that you should make this state
smaller.
Will what you need be swapped?
Livni: We do
not create a state for every refugee but we create a
concept. This is what happened in Israel when the
state was created. The Jews came to the state and not
to the land. There are things on the ground that you
hate but they are there.
There
is enough chance to reduce the needs that we have
proposed.
Saeb: Will
you compensate us for what you will take?
Livni: We
will talk about the type of compensation.
I know
that your position is for 1:1 swap. I said I cannot
accept this percentage, but we will negotiate.
I know
that Abu Mazen has proposed this to Olmert but Olmert
refused it. I know that you have your ideas and I
suggest that during next meeting you propose them.
Abu Ala’: I
agreed to listen to your propositions because I
thought you would come with realistic propositions.
In
light of these circumstances and these unrealistic
propositions, I see that the only solution is a
bi-national state where Moslems, Christians and Jews
live together.
In
Israel they do not realize our needs.
Is our
demand for 1967 borders too much for us?
RETORT:
From
the context here, it’s clear that the main point of
the discussion is relating to territory not refugees.
Dr.
Erekat uses the Israeli logic/argument that the
Palestinian state is the solution for the Palestinian
refugee problem to make the case for why the
Palestinian state should have as much territory as
possible.
In
other words, he is stating to the Israelis, “Even by
your own logic, we should have the maximum territory
in our state.”
The
position on refugees is expressed in the official PLO
documents, which call for a recognition of the right
of return, and implementation per refugee choice.
Relevant Excerpt:
24 July 2008; Ziyad Clot E-mail to Zeinah Salahi
As you
know, SE decided to share our position on refugees
very early in the negotiation process with the
Israelis. He was willing to show to the US the
Palestinians serious intentions to engage on the core
issues. At the same time, he also did not feel that he
had the expertise to handle real (oral) negotiations
with the Israelis on this and preferred to proceed via
an exchange of Is/Ps with T. Becker.
In
parallel, AM offered an extremely low proposal for the
number of returnees to Israel a few weeks only after
the start of the process.
However, in the scope of the SE-TB track, we have not
given away anything despite the pressure put by the
Israelis, and now the US, and despite a very awkward
and dangerous process (these exchanges of papers
between TB & SE). The Israelis have also recently
accepted the structure we have suggested for the
Article on refugees (recognition of refugee rights and
then implementation, rather than implementation via
the international mechanism).
I
remain convinced that the refugee file remains one of
Israel’s main concerns but that they believe that they
can get a good deal on this considering the
Palestinian leadership’s weaknesses and the US recent
involvement on the issue.
Strategically, it is in our best interest to keep the
discussion over the substance of the file until the
end in order to avoid giving any guarantee to the
Israelis before we have a more precise idea of what
the PLO might be able to get regarding the other files
(???), and on Jerusalem, in particular.
We
have now reached a point where a lot of pressure is
going to be put on AM, AA and SE on the refugee file,
with the US acting in support of Israeli interests.
There is clear risk that SE and AA will have no choice
but to comply with US instructions and discuss the
issue under the conditions impose by the US.
RETORT:
This
is an internal memo between two technical advisors,
and does not represents the positions of Dr. Erekat.
What
is worth noting is the reference to the fact that the
Palestinian negotiators “have not given
away anything
despite the pressure put by the Israelis, and now the
US, and despite a very awkward and dangerous process
(these exchanges of papers between TB & SE). The
Israelis have also recently accepted the structure we
have suggested for the Article on refugees
(recognition of refugee rights and then
implementation, rather than implementation via the
international mechanism).”
The
author of the e-mail may have had some issues with the
tactics of the negotiators, but the fact remains that
at the end of the day, they did not concede on any of
the positions.
Relevant Excerpt:
Attendees:
Karel De Gucht, Belgian Minister of Foreign Affairs (KDG)
10 or
so other Belgian officials
Dr.
Saeb Erekat (SE)
Hala
Rashed
Subject:
Belgian Foreign Minister’s visit
Date: 23
March 2007 11am
Location:
NAD
SE:
Siege is composed of (1) bank restrictions and (2) tax
revenues.
“Bear-hugging”: International community pays lip
service to AM.
Saudis promised $80M for Pals, but we never saw it.
[Saeb
gave him the Israeli cabinet decision regarding the
NUG].
AM
needs to do three things: (1) one gun, (2) Fatah
reform, (3) political horizon.
We
won’t allow what happened to Arafat to happen to AM.
We
can reverse the course. All we need is 3-4 months to
conclude an agreement.
We
will not give up refugees before PSN
Israel has three options: (1) two-state solution, (2)
control from Med to the Jordan River, but give us our
rights, (3) status quo.
I
don’t want Al-Qaeda’s evil to use my just cause.
Anyone who says that Pals are not ready for democracy
is a racist.
I
can’t stand Hamas or their social program.
RETORT:
First, unlike other minutes, these notes were made in
point form by the note-taker and did not reflect the
totality of the conversation between the 2 parties.
Dr.
Erekat states that the Palestinian side will not give
up on any permanent status issue, including refugees,
before entering into negotiations on these issues, and
that in response to the Israeli demands of recognizing
Israel as a Jewish state.
The
phrasing is somewhat awkward, but this was essentially
Dr. Saeb’s way of reiterating the general Palestinian
position on negotiations in Annapolis, which utterly
and categorically rejected the Israeli demands to
recognize Israel as a Jewish state and that “nothing
is agreed until everything is agreed.”
Major concessions on territory
“Napkin map” presented as a possible
basis for a territory agreement
Source: http://english.aljazeera.net/palestinepapers/2011/01/2011122114239940577.html
Report: The two leaders met again on September 16,
2008. A set of talking points prepared by the NSU
included a great deal of confusion about Olmert's
offer; the memo urged Abbas to ask for a copy of the
map, and raised a number of questions about the
territory swaps. The NSU memo did not explicitly
endorse or reject the Olmert offer; it did warn that
continued settlement growth (particularly in East
Jerusalem) would make any agreement "much more
difficult."
RETORT:
- In
response to Olmert’s proposal, President Abbas raised
a number of questions. Many of these questions were
intended to fill in major information gaps that were
present in Olmert’s proposal.
Others
were leading questions intended to expose Israel’s
lack of seriousness and show that the proposal was
unviable and unacceptable. There should be no
ambiguity here that Olmert’s proposal was unacceptable
to us.
- For
details on our actual position on territory, please
refer to the Territory Concept Paper submitted during
the 2010 “proximity talks.”
Palestinians willing to accept the
annexation of all of East Jerusalem’s settlements
Source: http://english.aljazeera.net/palestinepapers/2011/01/2011122114239940577.html
RETORT:
- We
have not been willing to accept Israel’s annexation of
all of the settlements in the East Jerusalem area. In
fact, in response to Olmert’s proposal, we noted that
“Maale Adumim, Givat Zeev, Har Homa and Efrat
[settlements in the East Jerusalem area] clearly
prejudice contiguity, water aquifers, and the
viability of Palestine,” to suggest that we are
unwilling to consider these settlements as options for
swaps. Here again, media reports are misleading.
- One
cannot assess the merit of an agreement piecemeal. One
has to look at the entire agreement.
In the
negotiating process in question, nothing is agreed
until everything is agreed.
Al-Jazeera reported on January 26, 2011
in “Bila Hudoud’’ that in the Palestinian offer and
the map, the swap is 1:50 (for Israel) in the
Jerusalem area and 1:1 in the WB.
RETORT:
‐
When we speak of territory exchanges between Palestine
and Israel, the main principle to keep in mind is that
the land exchanged must be of equal size and value.
‐
To focus on the ratio of the swap in any given area is
arbitrary and manipulative. Depending on the region,
we may also find that the land we receive is far
greater than the land we would be giving up in that
particular region.
‐
Again, one cannot assess a proposal on the basis of
one of its elements without looking at its whole. For
instance, even though in East Jerusalem land may be of
greater value than it is in other parts of the West
Bank. However, at the end of the day if Israel cannot
offer us land on its side of the 1967 border that is
comparable in size and value to the land on our side
of the border it may seek after we conduct a detailed
analysis of the proposal, that proposal could not move
forward.
‐
In addition, some of the maps presented do not
indicate some of the areas we seek on Israel’s side of
the border, which include destroyed villages near East
Jerusalem that we would like to include as part of our
state, allowing refugees to return to their ancestral
villages in a Palestinian state.
Goldstone Report
The
quote as it was brought in Aljazeera:
SE:
“Then came Goldstone and all hell broke loose. You
know the first public response to the
Goldstone thing came from
Lieberman, who said Abu Mazen agreed to postpone the
vote because the Israelis threatened to release the
“tapes” showing him coordinating the attack on Gaza
with Israel. Then there was the report that he did it
for Wataniya, which they said is owned by his two
sons.”
RETORT:
Reading the full quotations shows that Dr. Saeb
repeated (not confirmed) vicious rumors by the
Israeli.
What
is also interesting is that Al-Jazeera failed to refer
to other parts of the minutes where the following is
recorded:
SE:
Abul-Gheit was candid. He said in public “Goldstone
finished you [AM]. You’re finished”. Then he goes to
Jordan on the 5th with Nasser Joudeh, and dares to say
Egypt had no knowledge. Then hell broke loose –
because this was Egypt …
GM:
It’s not true?
SE: Of
course not. Hisham Bader was in the meeting. They were
consulted. We are not even a member [of the UN Human
Rights Council]. It was the Pakistani who read the
resolution on behalf of the three groups. Instead they
said AM sold out – and the [rumoured] story about
Wataniya. I know life’s not fair – but this was
despicable. The Emir of Qatar going on the phone
personally, calling intellectuals telling them to
attack
AM –
calling Azmi Bishara and Abdul-Bari Atwan. This is
because AM wouldn’t go and do reconciliation in Qatar
like the Lebanese. But there is nothing you can do
with Qatar
The
attack on Goldstone Report issue is another old one
and is now being recycled as part of a sensational
attack on the President and Dr. Saeb.
The
President responded to this issue in October 2009 and
said that the decision was to defer the Goldstone
matter and not cancel it. Palestine isn’t even a
member of the UN Human Rights Council and it was a
decision made by the Arab States.
What
is more important, and which is not reflected in the
public record is that at the same time the Goldstone
resolution was being discussed, the President
instructed Dr. Saeb and the NSU to work closely with
the Minister of Justice, Dr. Ali Khashan to follow up
on a request to the International Criminal Court to
seek war crimes prosecutions. This is where the real
matter is and which we did not make public for fear
that it would undermine our efforts.
We
made the calculation that the Goldstone resolution was
not going to be successful and would not achieve
anything practical because of US threats to block any
meaningful UNSC action, and that we could delay it
without: 1) harming the political track; and 2) taking
away from the real effort at the ICC for war crimes
prosecutions. Pursuing ICC action directly was the
only meaningful option, and we continue to pursue it.
Goldstone is just a report and it needs UNSC action to
make it operational. The ICC has the potential for
real prosecutions which the Israelis are seriously
concerned about. What you see in the incomplete notes
is reflective of the reality of politics and
diplomacy, without compromising the real need to seek
justice for the victims of Gaza.
Sensationalized rumors by Al-Jazeera are simply that.
Rumors repeated out of context. Aljazeera actions only
show that they are after the leadership, not the
truth. Dr. Ali Khashan and I have worked closely with
the President on seeking accountability for war crimes
in Gaza. Even if you look at the documents Al Jazeera
put on its website, in March 2009 in the notes from
the meeting with the President, the President told the
NSU that he instructed Dr. Ali and me to continue with
the ICC efforts and seek prosecutions of war
criminals. This was a calculated decision because it
was the only effective forum. Goldstone, however, we
could defer for a few months for political gain
without actually undermining the serious and quiet
efforts at the ICC.
In
the end, it was a reasonable calculation to make and I
stand by my decisions and those of the President and I
continue to provide instructions for seeking
prosecutions for war crimes in close coordination with
Dr. Ali Khashan. Are these the actions of someone
trying to sell out Palestinian human rights, or
reasonable and calculated decisions to advance
Palestinian interests? You are entitled to be
critical, but please do it after knowing all the facts
and not based on rumours, misinformation and without a
fair context of reasonable differences of approach to
advance Palestinian rights.
Collaborating with Israeli on Security
Available in the Arabic version. Please see the
attached separate paper.
* Dr. Saeb Erakat one of the prominent
faces of Palestinian struggles and Chief PLO
negotiator & Fatah Central Committee member posted
this article Nov 2010 and there has been some delays
in making it available on
EsinIslam.Com.
However, following Mr. Erakat's direct contact with
EsinIslam.Com
articles of the Palestinian leader such as this can
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